jeff

I know a lot of people will disagree with me over this, but here goes.....
I like the idea of seeing how many song plays and page hits we get. That part is great and I especially like the fact that when I look at my own page, it doesn't count.
The chart, I do like, really I do, however I preferred it when it was based on plays rather than everything else. The reason I say that is because I don't sell my music or currently allow downloads, so I always have a poor (ish) position...
Also, there are always people who think they deserve a higher position that the have and start bitching and arguing about it.....
Maybe scrap the chart and thus prevent the massaging of fragile egos and keep everything else exactly the same.

Maybe I want to see an end to the chart because my fragile ego can't take the fact I have never entered the top 10...

Maybe we should keep it the way it is.....

As a user the charts don't really matter to me personally because I never followed what was on them anyways. I find my own stuff to listen to regardless if it's on the charts or not because just as Jeff has said; "Charts aren't everything - they are just one of the MANY ways to discover artists."

At the same time, I do understand that may artists find the charts useful and part of what they do. Since I'm not on the music charts they are not as valid to me as to actual artists. (Hey, that's like removing the people chart...that I can get into a debate about!). So I understand why the charts SHOULD be around and I must say I do like the idea of having them based on only plays, since we all now know that many can cheat in page views by setting the site at their home page or refreshing the page.

Someone very smart (he knows who he is) also recommended the idea of using a random selection. Just have like 10 new bands show up each time the page is refreshed and that way it's random and everyone gets noticed if this whole ranking thing is not working. This way there is no ranking.

Obviously I know much less about how it all works than the nimble people doing the site, but from my own virew I say if you can't make it better so that no one can cheat the system, then get rid of it.

A twist on the chart idea.
- Charts for readership i.e. individual readers per i.p. and only count unique i.p.s

- Music charts - only use unique plays per i.p. or sales data. Realistically the page activity are for yours and the artists eyes only anyway [kind of an inter office memo]

- Randomizer button ~ or a "Fuzzer Button" could be setup per i.p. and adjusted in the account settings as per genre / all and change each pageload. The same script could be used for anything on the site ~ random articles etc.

I know you have a million other things that need doing save from separating bobby from pulling cindy's hair and I have opened my "fat" opinion a bit much here as of late and will go to my room now. =P

Thanks for Listening Jeff.

Honestly, I like the charts. When I first went on this site, I went to every single person listed on each chart and listened to their music. My thoughts were, they had to be up there for a reason. Some I liked, some I didn't...that is just my musical taste. I don't want to see the charts go. I think as an artist getting on that list is something special to them!

Thanks Jeff!!!!!

It is a "music uprising" site correct? Do something completely off the cuff. Dump the charts. Put different tools there. Oh..darn it I was going to go to my room. I'll be in the corner.

So far, this is really great - awesome feedback. @FaThEad - don't go to the corner (there are no time outs here)... hang out and share your thoughts. You guys are coming up with some really insightful stuff... I'm taking notes...

As a musician I say keep them. I think all we basically hope for by being on any chart anywhere is that we may get more exposure... and as you said it's obviously just one of many many promotional tools... the charts definitely cannot hurt anyone, and can only possibly help artists, so wht would you want to get rid of them? I do think the algorithm could be changed possibly, but I'm not going to type a novel on that. That is up for you guys to decide how that works.

Everyone knows my views on posers that create fake fan profiles and fake press and all that... I think they deserve no spot on any chart anywhere if they have manipulated their way on to one, and thats where the moitoring and/or algorithm thing could change...

Thanks for asking our opinions on this J.

peace,

B-rad

Automatic deletion of unused accounts - this frees up server space as well as spammability.

As much as I hate the captchas they tend to work...however, the longer it takes a spammer to create an account the less likely they will create the multitude of sybil accounts.

Timing on comments and don't allow an original blog post to be edited once a comment has been posted to it. That changes the context of the original post and all subsequent comments look ridiculous.

More later.

Artist's should not be able to post to other artist pages, force that artist to make a user page. It is already a rule that in order to favor an artist you must have a fan account...carry this one step further and don't allow multiple artist spam or mp3 links in comment posts on the artists page.

It is dumping water in buckets here. I must go now. =P

It should be a chart which does not allow that much manipulation: Everything cost-connected and everything in the eye of the public is not easily manipulated. If you set up sth. like Blip for songs artists put on Fuzz, everyone can see who blips which song, so if a musician tries to play his songs a thousand times this can easily be detected by other Fuzz-blippers (as I take the liberty of calling it). "Cost-connected" would be things like download sales. Or, haha, cool idea I've just got, users can donate money via Fuzz for a good purpose, e.g. street children in Brazil or whatever, and by donating they can give their favorite artist some extra points for the charts. Record companies cannot take part ;-)
(user tibii)

I think we should have an electronic chart like Fuzz has in place now, and a "PEOPLE" orientated chart. Two charts will keep everyone happy. I am an artist who has NEVER hit #1 on the main page but I have become content with just getting recognized. Being in the top ten does get your name out there faster. My brother left Fuzz because of the "Charts." My brother and I definately share the same frustrations regarding the charts. When someone EARNS the #1 ranking and has done nothing crooked to get it, my hats off to them! But when a group or artist comes out of nowhere and suddenly hits #1. That artist better "have the goods," or they will be attacked. This is understandable but childish. I am winding down my carreer and I am truly glad I chose Fuzz as the place to distribute my works. Fuzz should strive to be "FAIR." Thanks for starting this blog Jeff.