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Your “Three-And-A-Half-Minute Sweet Spots of Web-Time”

We live in a digital environment characterized by increasing information overload and attention deprivation and, like it or not, we are captives in an evolving web-based and web-defined pop culture from which few can escape. The notion of social capital generally refers to the value of our human relationships but remains largely a default metaphor for the value of networking that can’t be quantified. Social capital wants to be measured, but we don’t know how to do it. Why is measuring social capital according to “sweet spots” important? How we deal with these sweet spots may well change our lives, both individually and collectively.

Stewart Brand, creator of The Whole Earth Catalog, observed several decades ago that information that wants to be free, becomes free. And Chris Anderson, author of The Long Tail, presents a compelling case in his recent Wired magazine article (to become a book in 2009) that in a world driven by ”freeconomics”, music that wants to be free, becomes free. Likewise, social capital that wants to be measured, becomes measured; and we can harness all of these accelerating forces of self-organization to our advantage if we can identify and use the full power of our most effective sweet spots of time on the web.

Before we can measure social capital in our digital culture, at least three elements–networks, content, and time–must work together in harmony so that social capital can be easily created, stored, and exchanged. On the web, time is the element most taken-for-granted in the exercise to establish measurable values. The web is basically a series of network connections between transmitting and receiving nodes. Every second that you are on the web, you are receiving or transmitting signals and noise. It is likely that more than 99% of the time, from your perspective, you are on the receiving end of mostly noise and only occasionally content that is relevant to you. You create social capital on the web only when you transmit what is considered relevant content by a defined number of receivers in one or more interconnecting networks.

Time is the only true common denominator that we all have in equal measure and value most in life. During your entire life, your effective web-time will likely be less than a million minutes (say, an average of 1 hour a day X 365 days X 40 years = 876,000 minutes). Although we often hear predictions about the profound impact that the web will have on our lives, very few actually calculate how much time we, as individuals, will actually be on the web based on reasonable assumptions. In both receiving and transmitting web content, 876,000 minutes of web-time is not a lot–so use those minutes wisely

Clay Shirky, a long-time student of web-dynamics, suggested in his widely read and discussed article on ”Power Laws, Weblogs, and Inequality” that the web cascades according to a power law, largely driven by supernodes. Supernodes are connectors of networks (rather than individuals), who replicate content according to a multiplication table rather counting fingers and toes. The filtering function of supernodes creates by design or result a selective pattern of web-usage that has now become known as “the long tail”. In order to participate in nature’s ordering of her complexity, you should strive to be a supernode yourself or attract other supernodes as often as possible by creating relevant web-content using the “sweet spots” of web-time that I propose are best positioned to pass the de facto filter test of our time-constrained pop culture.

The sweet spot of digital data that “wants to be” multiplied (rather than discarded as noise or merely added in onesy/twosy fashion) through network connections is content that can be experienced in discrete units of time during a unique web session. I suggest that 30 seconds is too short and 10 minutes is too long to maintain your attention on the web when you are in “time-conscious” mode. Because your total lifetime experience on the web(!) is probably less than 900,000 minutes as demonstrated above, you want to do everything in a hurry (to just get the gist and move on, maybe return later, more likely not, always chasing the new, new thing). Based on anecdotal evidence and personal experience, a more reasonable period of time to transmit and receive web-values in our fast-paced digital culture is somewhere between 2 and 5 minutes. Let’s split the difference, for now, and say that 3.5 minutes may be the “optimum” period - to listen to one song or read a blog that has the potential for “accelerated self-organization” (which is just another way to describe the operation of power laws in nature). Web-content packaged in short sweet spots of time that are just long enough are amenable to multiplication rather addition (geometric vs. arithmetic growth).

The web-time needed to listen to an artist’s album or a fan’s playlist with appreciation, or to read a detailed article with understanding, is too long and, let’s face it, this will rarely happen. Why would this be so? Even utilizing three-and-a-half-minute “optimal web-units” means that you only have time to check out about 250,000 sweet spots of comprehensible content (both good and bad) on the web during your entire life! [876,000/3.5 = 250,286]. I’ll wager that because cyberspace is infinite, you thought you would have boundless time to explore it and find all the good stuff to your heart and mind’s delight. If more than 99% of your time on the web is receiving noise or content not relevant to you (see point 2 above), the sweet spots of the “good stuff” may be even a small fraction of these, say, 250,000 optimal web-units during your entire life. Holy Smoke! How do we change the math?

As a transmitting node on the web, you have only about three-and-a-half-minutes to have your music heard, blog read, or media presentation absorbed to hook a receiving node to repeat it, save it, or pass it on. Clearly, just saying “check out my stuff” is not enough. At the same time, “hooking” a receiving node or two does not trigger the multiplier effect initiated by supernodes. Supernodes perform a key role in measuring social capital by acting as de facto filters for the good stuff that comes packaged in sweet spots of web-time.

Due to the dynamics of networks, all these sweet spots of content that “hook” (think, X) are being transmitted and received simultaneously in mind-boggling complexity with the “opposite of X” (that is, web-content that is essentially noise to be filtered rather than replicated). In this milieu, what web participants connect and replicate in actual fact are the “sweet spots that hook.” These sweep spots are capable of being measured as optimal web-units and, thus, are measured. This process of accelerated self-organization seems to be circular, but don’t worry about it. Just remember that the optimal elements of social capital on the web (based upon the constituent framing elements of time, content, and connectivity) self-emerge and we will deserve the future that we create.

Your job on the net, if you choose to accept it, is to find your own sweet spots–both as a creator and supernode filter.

My three-and-a-half-minutes are up. Unless, of course, you choose to re-read this, save it, or pass it on.

Comments
posted on Apr 9 at 10:14 pm
Ok, point taken. On the other hand this reminds suspiciously of the fifties and sixties when record companies and radio programmers considered the 3 minute song with a hook to be the be-all and end-all. Shortly after that people preferred to listen to In a Gadda da Vida and Stairway to Heaven.

I think all of this is much more differentiated. Some are zapping through the internet (yes, it started with TV before the net came up), others are building deep and enduring relationships. Of course you can also have zapping-mode enduring relationships (as opposed to deep enduring relationships). You can even have deep 3 minute relationships - well not so sure about that ;-)

In the end it will be an individual construction. The individual artist, be it a 30 minute glitch guy or be it a 3 minute instant pop guy or be it the freedom-to-choose-all-is-possible guy, will have to find the fans and friends and likeminded with these very same interests, and get them to consider him an enduring relationship and return to his websites. Which does not mean that the artist has to sustain a constant lifelong chat with his fans and friends, e.g. I have a lifelong relationship with Brian Wilson and Smokey Robinson without them even having heard of me.

But as your style of writing is not the easiest I'm not sure if I got your main point at all and understood all of what you wrote.
posted on Apr 10 at 6:16 am
tibii, permit me to clarify:

1.) I am not suggesting that 3 ½ minutes of web-time are ideal for enduring relationships – indeed, this may or may not be the case. However, it behooves us to use these “packets” of signal and noise wisely so that there is more signal than noise in these 3 ½ minute snippets since we have so few of them as individuals.

2.) What I am positing is that the three elements of time, content, and connectivity must work together for our digital culture to self-organize based on multiple interactions.

3.) Supernodes are those network connections that operate as de facto filters that facilitate multiple interactions of mind-boggling complexity in a nested hierarchy of multiple networks (family, friends, connections, even strangers). In operation, any node on any network (you or me, for example) can be “energized” to become a supernode when a “sweet spot” of content strikes our fancy.

4.) I am suggesting that, given the constraints on time which is the one thing that we all have in equal measure (broadly speaking), the 3 and ½ minutes to focus on web-content is a reality as we individually “surf” the web and so we’d better make these precious minutes as good as possible. This is key, and perhaps more a prayer for humanity than an assumption that all will be well.
posted on Apr 10 at 9:18 am
I make most of my songs 3 minutes long or less. I understand todays attention span. Even before I got internet access with my music. I was VERY aware of the power a song had over it's listener if it was 3 minutes or less and "GOOD." The listener is more likely to replay the tune because of feeling unsatisfied and wanting more. But I am concerned when anyone suggests or demands an artist to place time limits on their music. It reminds me of a "Doors" song "Light My Fire." I heard many versions of that track and each one had the VERY long organ solo:-). I think that song was brilliant because during that time, the average song on the radio played was only 2 and a half minutes long. But the sound and message was so powerful...."RADIO" adjusted to the artist. I believe we have many artist here on Fuzz who can get certain medias to adapt to THEM. I love your in depth disection of this thing we call "music." Great work and looking forward to more.
posted on Apr 10 at 9:19 am
Hi TCC, just a short stop by - but I will come back, promise!

RE: You create social capital on the web only when you transmit what is considered relevant content by a defined number of receivers in one or more interconnecting networks.

I guess artists + users need more "down to earth tips" - but this topic reminded me of the free downloads here on Fuzz. These are pretty useless (or in some cases the harm the artists reputation, IMO) as long as freeing this music is not used to promote the artists.

It's not enough just to set them free. There are lots of bloggers + online magazines that do nothing but write about free music. (here is a link to the English descriptions of the very popular Tonspion )
posted on Apr 10 at 12:18 pm
I don't think TCC is recommending necessarily that songs be reduced to 3:30 or less. I think it's true that you have very little time to catch a reader/listener's attention, so it's very important to put thought into all aspects of your brand/content, from your avatar to your bio to your blog posts and featured tracks in order to "hook" potential victims as quickly as possible. Once you've got someone's attention, it will be easier to get it again in the future, and they will likely spend more of their web-time segments (3.5 minutes or otherwise) to hear what you have to say (or play).

That's the time you put into your content, utilizing your network/connections to request and receive the time/attention of others. The "give and take" sharing of time and attention is what builds social capital and leads to self-organization and the emergence of authoritative super-nodes... and/or indie rock stars. ;)
posted on Apr 10 at 2:10 pm
In short, I believe what the intent of this article suggests is, WE have to be precise in our web-presence. It isn't about shortening our songs, blogs, etc., it's about the immediate effect of how our presentation grabs the attention of the web.
posted on Apr 10 at 3:13 pm
Dear TCC,

Reserving all respects that I have and will have for you I would like to leave my frank comment about what you wrote;

01-Please let us know how long it took you to compile it?
02-How long you think it took me to read your note carefully and also read the 5 other comments including your reply to that of tibi?
03-How long you think I'm taking to write this now?
04-I'm sure you thought it's worth reading and commenting what you posted, otherwise you wouldn't do that, no?!
05-Now limit us with the time calculation that you think we better follow and see how many others can attend your own notes which you thought it's something very relevant and invited us to go through?!?
06-If we try to initiate the formating of sweet spots who's taste will be dominant and why?
07-How could a system put millions of tastes in divisions and grade them as A, B, C, etc, for instance, so that when taste A builds up a channel of so and so 3 to 3.5 minutes songs, and taste B and C and so forth follow the system guarantees that all is classified and valued fairly?
08-There are songs in this small room that I personally believe can be the top chart for weeks (I don't wanna name) and there are top charts that I don't like, but no one can make the first happen or avoid the latter, just because it's not depended on a single factor.

09-The mankind has already enchained oneself in many ways that now we don't need more chains, rather we need freedom in it's real meaning and concept, so let's don't create more limitations bro, we have enough.
10-Music is a mysterious ocean, some where we don't even know much about it yet, may be I can simply say I don't suggest such mathematical contemplations and formating in this space, but may be for other web matters.

However, I appreciate your open mind to put it on kind of election and/or evaluation and I'm sure you're getting what you needed out of this.
Well, about 50 minutes up to here, but it worthed, so sometimes hours doesn't count while seconds matter.

Good luck and sorry for being so frank.

Sincerely,

Mehdi
posted on Apr 10 at 5:52 pm
'got dem hot beats"
posted on Apr 10 at 6:52 pm
All right , all right couldn't resist. Very interesting subject. I agree with a lot of what's said. I am going to leave my Paul comment(if Mehdi is Frank ha ha ). I think anything wrote and read from TCC should be taken into consideration. That's the feeling I get here. Not how long the material is(that's missing the point to me), not this or that, just consider this educated statistical statement and use it to your benefit or don't. I believe the more you know the better equipped. And in today's World the sharper the edge the deeper you slice... Store this info(with all the rest) with my personal thoughts on the matter, and some off the most original music on this sight(around really) and it makes for a prescription for success JH I believe over three thousand listens and nearly 12000 views with NO trickery in a little more than three months is my proof. There are so many pages(now or was at one time) on my myspace with one of my songs set as their(strangers) default, I am giving my three minutes, and in return they are letting me in/part of their life, that is so amazing. Now I'm on their Ipod. Trickle down effect, ya think so, sort of like "my music(money) is working for me".. My enduring quest for knowledge, relentlessness, and my writing ability will ensure me there are no limitations on anything I do. How many times have you listen to your fav albums/cd, watched your favorite movie. Even now in this internet World or back in the day when beta ruled and played your classic movies. Good is still good and GREAT is GETS THE AUTHENTIC TIME !! WHen I think of when I first came to this site my aggressive stye promotions maybe cost me a few listens and I got a bad rep as a spamming mad man. But over time with some socialbuxx and hitting of "my sweat spots" I maybe got them back and tenfold for sure. peace and thanks TCC "teach" for the info... for me it has been eye opening and some very entertaining reads...... peace and much love Jostel
posted on Apr 10 at 7:53 pm
i think this is a great idea. next we have to find the most time saving programs to get our 3.5 minute hooks to likely parties. this is a big new project on the web as can be seen here:

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/10_recommendation_engines.php

with programs like pandora getting similar music to listeners, its a brave new web.
posted on Apr 11 at 5:33 am
One of my favorite songs is PSY by the butthole surfers... that's about 10 mins long I think.
posted on Apr 11 at 11:35 am
Content with integrity; I skim 'til I catch it...or it catches me, as it were. I'll spend as long as it takes on something I find worthwhile. I detest the notion of quantifying sound bites. The advertising companies have taken it way too far. I stopped watching tv after 9/11 because I couldn't stand having my consciousness molested further. I hopped three bars last weekend because I couldn't escape the televisions...mounted so you could not avoid the blast. Ended up at an Irish bar with three tvs, but one table that the beams missed. This is happening with the internet too - it is horrifying to log into a reference site and be subjected to ad animation, or to attempt to read a blog while contending with the dancing or vocalizing ads. The internet is not television. Not that you said it was, but the idea of quantifying a "sweet spot" kinda sent my thoughts in that direction.

Most of the artists I know and/or appreciate have clean, quiet websites that encourage exploration. I love the facet of the Fuzz artist site that simply allows one to press play based on the first visual impression. It's a polite structure that implies respect toward people making decisions on their own. The internet is a visual medium, I believe that is what "speaks" loudest, and can be executed in such a way that it isn't overwhelming or presumptive.

My opinion is that is an artist creates with integrity, the notice will come. It's when an artist is creating for the sake of notice that the art begins to lose it's structure. Sure, it's an idealistic concept, but when has art ever succeeded without idealism?
posted on Apr 11 at 12:43 pm
I agree with Mehdi that we don't need more chains but that we need much more freedom. Being anti-capitalist I also am not a fan of starting to value social contacts. While we are IN the capitalist system (and leading modern Marxists think we will remain there for a few hundred years) it does make sense though for musicians who strive to make a living from music to pay attention to how the web, music markets, patterns and trends in pop etc. work. In that context TCC's contributions are very very useful advice or partly (considering he is thinking ahead of our times) a way of ultra-modern brainstorming.
The idea of nodes and groups is not so cool from my radical freedom-oriented point of view, but I take part in this game anyway (or have started to do so), because the reality is that most people are not freedom-oriented but group-pattern- (e.g. subcultures) or, in TCC's word, supernode-oriented.
My personal supernode (in the sense of multiplier as well as spiritual adviser) was John Peel, surely a cool one, but of course there are plenty of uncool ones too. After he passed away I turned more and more to the internet. As no one ventured to become the new John Peel, I started to rely less and less on anyone else for e.g. musical recommendations, and the method of random clicking which online communities enable me to do effectively, turned out for me personally to be the most successful - I found nearly all my new musical favorites by randomly clicking in online communities.
So while I stopped relying on nodes maybe I've become a node myself - no, not maybe, I know for sure, e.g. have I brought together a musician from Germany and a musician from Australia by being a node, albeit for very few people, but it does work.
But if it is efficient to concentrate on nodes when "marketing" one's music, I don't know.
It may be though that I still have not understood TCC's message, e.g. my equalization supernode = multiplier could be a misunderstanding of his article on my side.
posted on Apr 11 at 1:54 pm
Dear Friends,

Contrary to the assumptions and the "web-mathematics" that led to calculating the 3 and 1/2 "sweet-spots of web-time" in my article, I find the initial reactions to my article by artists and fans alike to be most revealing and instructive. To frame the issue, we might say that (1) while social capital wants to be measured, that (2) Art itself, qua Art, does not want to be measured.

I thank my web-friends for pointing out in very clear terms the undeniable truth of the second element of the framing exercise [see no. (2) above]. Indeed, it is not surprising that artists and passionate music fans would be grounded in the bed-rock of this conviction. It may well be that, given the inherent contradiction between web-tendencies and the artistic imperative, the notion of SocialBuxx™ may not be quantifiable other than in limited context of what the web portends for the future of pop culture.

In fact, as Clif points out and Mehdi astutely calculates, to just name a few of you who are essentially speaking with largely a unified voice here, enduring relationships between an artist and his/her work AND between artist and fan, cannot be simply pigeon-holed into 3 and 1/2 minutes [and I certainly did not mean to suggest that they should be].

What I did hypothesize, however [so as not to run away from the basic thrust of my article], is that because the web seems to be following some basic principles of "self-organization" [see link above] that are now accelerating in digital dimension, it behoove us to be cognizant of "sweet spots" that hook and [here is the source of the controversy], like it or not, those sweet spots seem to operate according to a time-clock on the web [albeit 3 and 1/2 minutes, 1 hour, or whatever - let's not get hung up on the precise number of minutes],

To give full consideration to the other side of the framing exercise [(2) above] that Art does not want to be measured, please check out Clif's wondrous "blog book tour" on Eden Maxwell and his book, An Artist Empowered. This blog tour clearly will take more than 3 and 1/2 minutes to read and the contents of this web-presentation screams against much of what I am saying about "sweet spots" and the web. Even if it takes more time to read and ponder than a web-based "optimal sweet spot", this blog-spot is a must read for us all, as well. What a contradiction and dilemma!

These are interesting times, indeed..
posted on Apr 11 at 3:06 pm
I'm going to go out on a limb here and try to drastically over-simplify these multiple somewhat-related conversations in order to reach out for the core truths in terms that are understandable and immediately usable.

For a moment I will hypothesize that the measurement of social capital within a finite network is reputation. As Chris Anderson points out, the new economies are reputation and attention, and I think that's exactly what we're talking about here. (Reputation on the web can be measured given an arbitrary unit of measurement, i.e. diggs, trackbacks, search ranking - but that's a SocialBuxx™ topic).

While I have been an outspoken advocate of art for art's sake, I have also spent considerable time pondering and discussing how to measure and monetize social capital for "artists' sake" whether in the form of selling music or selling around the music. While those two endeavors may seem contradictory, they are not. Because reputation belongs much more to the artist than the artifact.

It is reputation that we need to create and store as artists, to be exchanged for the attention of potential fans, and possibly further for real world currency through sales of music, tickets and merchandise, as well as potential ad and affiliate revenue, etc. We must build reputation at a community level to gain the "3 1/2 minutes" of attention from the uninitiated, and we need to build individual one-on-one reputation with those that stay beyond the "sweet spot" in order to gain more of their attention, convert that attention to potential financial currency, and in the best case scenario, convert the individual into an evangelist to further the required many-to-many proliferation of "nodes" in pursuit of the ever slippery "tipping point." That's the true "sweet spot" where the artist begins to earn social and financial capital in absentia.

So while these conversations may seem to be in the domain of intellectual self-indulgence, there is a point that is immediately and vitally important to the individual artist. Be aware that everything you do in this ultra-connected online world either creates or destroys social capital, measured (in my theory) as reputation. Creating and sharing art does nothing in relation to gaining social capital until you have built reputation at the community and individual level. This is why getting your best friend to listen to your first song is easier than getting some guy on the street to listen to it. This is why "check me out" comments from Fuzzers who haven't contributed anything are a waste of everyone's time. Because reputation earns attention, and reputation has to be earned.

So while TCC and I are off figuring out how to measure social capital, and to present it to the community in a meaningful way (maybe by helping the Fuzzsters figure out a more realistic reputation-based chart system) - Fuzzers should be focused on building their reputation, their personal brand, outside of (but in the context of) their music. Once your reputation buys the attention of a listener, then (and only then) the art itself becomes a reputation modifier. And then, if your art and the tastes of the listener intersect somewhere in "the long tail" - you may get the coveted sale (i.e. exchange of social capital for financial capital).
posted on Apr 12 at 12:59 pm
Just found an interesting article about the AIDA formula here!

A = Attention
I = Interest
D = Desire
A = Action

This is the basic rule for any presentation and advertising of art. The truth is - you have less than 3,5 min to get the audience's attention - If you miss it you are done!
posted on Apr 13 at 10:43 am
By the way I think that the Fuzz charts should measure duration of song playing as opposed to frequency of song playing. E.g. some artists either deliberately (manipulatively) or unintentionally (by error) have profile "songs" which only last a second and keep repeating endlessly. So they have a few thousand song plays at short notice. While someone else (e.g. one of my favorites, Persistence of Memory) might have a 20 minute song on their profile which can change the listener's life in a positive sense and still only count 1 play.
posted on May 7 at 11:48 am
I belive what your saying is that this digital age, because of the mass amount of information we have access to. Are creating minds that are becoming less capable of focasing on more then 3.5 min on a "New" artist web-page, music, blog and content. So as an artist you should make the most of the time that you spend online. And give the viewer/listener something they can hang on to and remember for 3.5 min. Right?

Michele Vreeland
posted on May 9 at 9:24 am
Here is Lefsetz' inimitable take on the critical element of time. He says, in part in the cited article:



1. I don't have time. And neither does anybody else.
2. Cut one great single! That you can do your best to work.
3. Everybody's got time for one track... If they hear it's good. Sample fifteen seconds? Sure... If you say so. But as soon as you tell me about ten tracks and you want an hour of my time, I'm out of here. Most albums take days to devour, to fully understand, to get...and I've got much better things to do with my time, and so does the rest of your potential audience.
4. You're competing for mind share with not only the greatest musical hits of history, all at one's fingertips online, on one's iPod, but 500 cable channels, video games... Make it easy for me. Just give me one steaming single. That I can't deny!
5. there must be instant magic
6. The old era is over. The Internet and iPod have changed everything. Now you're only one of thousands of tracks. You've got to make it into a listener's pantheon, or be deleted
7. I know, I know, you don't like it! You want to be like the bands of yore. Maybe you are a band of yore. But no one's paying attention! They just don't care!
8. We're constantly trolling for great stuff. We say no, no, no and then yes! There's not an issue of scarcity, there's tons of music out there. And we haven't got time for all of it. Face that fact. Can you earn our time? It's precious. Start by asking only for a little. If we like what we hear, we'll give you more. Continue to spoon-feed us, let us become addicted, we want to become addicted. To something good!
9. You've got to earn attention. You've got to beg for a minute of our time. You've got to create something so good we want to give you our time!



Enuff said. TCC
posted on May 10 at 6:03 am
Here is some more that Lefsetz has to say about Artists, Getting Attention, and Time. For those in a hurry [as usual], here are a few quick take-aways:


1. The key is gaining attention
2. It's hard to get people to take a chance. Almost impossible.
3. People are busy, on the run, trying to make sense of this modern world, overloaded with information. Don't assume the sixties and seventies still rule.

4. Follow a young person's life. Besides texting, kids are in multiple IM conversations on their computers simultaneously. Each conversation is not at length and in depth. They might be listening to music in the background, but they'll click through what they don't like. How do you get their attention? With the killer track. It all starts with the killer track.
5. Start small. Very small. Woodshed. Get better.

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