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Kevin Kelly, the founding executive editor of Wired magazine, consistently adds insight on how to cope with our rapidly evolving digital culture. Since survival in the “long tail” environment is a major concern of indie artists, it is not surprising that Kelly’s web-article on “1000 True Fans“, first posted on March 4, 2008, has gone viral in the blogosphere. If you are not part of the group that caused this phenomenon, you should certainly read the article now because it is relevant to you as a passionate stakeholder in the future of music.

I view with wonder both the adulation and controversy created by Kelly’s article. Its title, “1000 True Fans”, is only a metaphorical benchmark, yet it is precisely because it is a powerful and easy to grasp symbol that many fail to get Kelly’s basic premise, which is reflected in his simple and true statement, “Direct fans are best.” The key word to tag here is direct.

Kelly frames his 1000 True Fans formulation as follows: if your True Fans (and 1000 is a feasible number) spend one day’s wages per year of, say, $100 in support of what you do as an artist, that sums up to $100,000 per year–which is a living for most after deducting modest expenses. Kelly stresses that the key challenge for an artist is to maintain direct contact with their True Fans who can provide them with a living through multiple revenue streams if they “cultivate” the “direct support using new technology”. These “diehard fans” will be surrounded by “concentric circles of Lesser Fans.”

While Kelly’s perspective certainly resonates in broad terms, $100,000 per year would be a dream come true for most struggling artists with day jobs and who are on the verge of giving up on their dreams of making any money at all. The contra-Kelly view that $100,000 per annum is not an easy task to achieve (in acquisition or maintenance) is well presented in Scalzi’s article on “The Problem of 1000 True Fans“, which artists and music fans should also read. However, most critics overlook the important point that Kelly uses the “formalized” term “1000 True Fans” to represent a process or path rather than a specific result. As Kelly states, the “actual number is not critical”, it’s the “mid-way haven” where you “make a living instead of a fortune” that is “a much saner destination [for artists-in-the-making] to hope for”.

So let’s take Kelly’s notion of using technology to obtain the direct support of True Fans to find a good “home for creatives in between poverty and stardom” and break it down into some workable baby-steps first. That is, before artists give up their day jobs, let’s look at the process to make, say, $1000 per year, to see if we can find the “sweet spot” of focus as artists try to create aesthetic values that should, somehow, generate a return commensurate with the value created.

First, consider the following range of possibilities on how to make a thousand bucks. All of these formulations are based on some simple mathematics and immutable economics that markets clear according to supply and demand for value created:

1.) 10 fans x $100 = $1000 [this reflects on a smaller scale the “one-to-one business model” of “direct contact” that Kelly favors to acquire True Fans, defined as “someone who will purchase anything and everything you produce”.]

2.) 100 fans x $10 = $1000 [this reflects the “one-to-few business model”, being the inner-circle of Lesser Fans in Kelly’s formulation of “concentric circles” on their way to becoming True Fans willing to part with more money as more value-added direct connections are made. NB: this was the “album-centric model of the major labels (multiplied by millions of fans rather than 100) in the good ol’ days (or bad ol’ days depending on your perspective).]

3.) 1000 fans x $1 = $1000 [this reflects the “one-to-many business model”, being Kelly’s concurrent process of nurturing “many more Lesser Fans” as you acquire True Fans. NB: this is the core of the “one-price fits all” iTunes model currently pushed by Apple (multiplied by millions rather than 1000) but morphing as Apple makes its real margins on iPod sales.]

4.) 10,000 fans x 10 cents = $1000 [this reflects the “many-to-many business model”, that Kelly suggests may be higher up “the narrow and unlikely peaks” of the long tail. NB: this “marginal pricing to zero” is essentially the environment of “music for free” that is currently forcing artists to search for other business models that generate, somehow, returns commensurate with value extended.]

If you have earned your Master of Business Reality, you will note in the foregoing formulations the countervailing trade-offs between generating “high margins” ($100) and “high velocity” ($1) as the primary revenue driver. But, let’s face it, margins vs. velocity is only a theoretical framing exercise for most artists. It is exceedingly difficult to get anyone to part with a hundred bucks, except maybe family and close friends. Equally, when artists are just starting out, it is difficult to get a thousand folks to part with a buck. And we know that even when downloads are free, an artist will likely not get 10,000 people to take them. Where then, indeed, do you find the “sweet spot” of your focus if any and all of the foregoing business models seem to be difficult to achieve for artists just getting started or artists who have always struggled to make a financial breakthrough? I believe that even on a smaller scale of revenue possibilities, Kelly has the right answer.

For indie artists, the key take-aways from Kelly’s article (or what he calls the “gist of 1000 True Fans”) are his observations [emphasis added], “To raise your sales out of the flatline of the long tail you need to connect with your True Fans directly. Another way to state this is, you need to convert a thousand Lesser Fans into a thousand True Fans…the technologies of connection and small-time manufacturing make this circle [of direct contact, feedback, and love] possible.”

What Kelly is saying in his prescient and now famous article is that even within the long tail environment fostered by new technologies, there are practical opportunities for artists to make a living by focusing on “the heads within the tails” rather than the stardom of the “heads within the heads.” This is accomplished by using the power of “the very technology that creates the long tail” to establish direct rather than indirect connections. The reason this sounds familiar is that it is the very same reason we are all here.

Comments
posted on Mar 26 at 7:27 am
Great article, TCC. But 2:23 AM? Do you ever sleep? :)

Two things I'd like to note. One is that the 10¢, $1, $10 or $100 you mention may not arise from sales of the music itself. In the fast approaching paradigm of "selling around the music," artists should think outside of the box as much as possible regarding what "thing" of unique value they could deliver to their fans to generate that hard-won revenue.

Second, and a bit more difficult to swallow, is that there is a huge psychological difference in charging 10¢ (almost free) for something and giving it away for free, both for the seller and the buyer. That variable in the equation means that the relationship between the number of "units" given away (or more importantly "taken") and the potential for selling those units is not the "simple math" one would hope for.

The great thing about "1000 True Fans" is that it's really no real news for any small business owner who has consciously or unconsciously had to "do the same math" for themselves, but framing it in the way Kelly has hopefully gives hope to the hopeless artists who are still operating under the "get signed or get a real job" mindset that prevailed in the past.

Take care,
Clif
posted on Mar 26 at 7:40 am
One mistake is that the music industry blames its crisis just on illegal downloads and the "everything must be free" mentality of fans.
This is not true. Music (and films) are luxury. You buy cds, mp3s + merchandise after you have paid your bills for rent/food/cloth "the main things you need for life" And did you notice? I wasn't talking about fashion, I said "cloth" More and more people are struggling to earn enough money for their living. Especially here in Germany the midclass is vanishing more and more. A few people become richer and a lot of people become poor. I guess this is a world wide phenomenon.

This affects artists way more than bakers (and I am not only talking about musicians - believe me I know what I am talking about)
What happens is that even true listeners don't spend 100 bucks - because they can't!!!!!
posted on Mar 27 at 2:51 am
Artists may look at what they themselves actually spend for an average individual other artist's music. That's what they can expect a fan to spend on their own music.
posted on Mar 27 at 10:31 am
Hi All-

Thanks for the article Capital Clinic!

Scalzi’s article on “The Problem of 1000 True Fans“ is an interesting counter-point but it has some big holes in it. It takes Kelly's point a little too literally. If you look at the standard business model of supplying product (sorry, but that's what we are doing on many levels) then Kelly's point holds up well. Maybe if he called the article "1000 True retainers while constantly marketing to gain an additional 500 to control turnover" :-p

I know...doesn't have the same ring.

The other point I try to stress in these kind of talks is VALUE. DifferentStars is right but I would add in that the labels were over-charging and under delivering (I mean, a Paris Hilton solo record...really...?). What artist have to do now is GIVE THEN FAN A REASON to buy. It can be art, interrelation with other products, cool merch, etc. Generally people don't pay for something to benefit you, so you have to find a way to benefit you both.

J
posted on Mar 28 at 7:48 am
AMazing article CC, especially for someone who admits to the fact ,finally, after much personal growth the party and who gives a fuck days are over. This really is a great read. All the comments too. I believe we do have to GIVE THE FAN A REASON as TOOF stated. By the way didn't that Hilton solo album go 'COPPER'. I also believe, sex sells ALOT these days, "I hate to say it"(sting). Whether 10 cent, 10 dollar, or 100 dollar. Everything you talk about up top is great, but why is Rap out selling more than most(very aggressive tactics make the buyer finally say yes, no matter what the dollar value, a lot say no, but ask enough people and yes is around the corner). Rock is back and fourth, more back than fourth, and country(big sexy hats and now scantily dressed women) is a hot commodity (CARRIE' big boobs" Underwood). Yes, talented, but sex does most of the selling these days, the lyrics(sexy), THE VIDEO'S(which I feel are the real main selling point of any big artist) are a huge point to remember. My backing of these statements on a personal level would be as soon as I changed my pic's to a more "face friendly pic" "not being conceded but hopefully not to hurtful for the eyes". Guess what my my-space numbers jumped up a great deal, more comments, more friends, more interest in my music(not from all, and that's expected), and wha la I hooked 'em and now I got-'em. Then the music has it's chance to speak for itself... That's when the product has to have that different appeal they don't get from the million, trillion other talented artist's out there. This site even had the same effect, my profile views went up a huge amount, maybe I convert some of them to Hasonism, that's all I can hope for. So these number theory's are very nice to put my possible earning in a statistical form, which I will really think about. But bottom line is, aggressive tactics, great music and a pretty Face (sadly enough in today's WORLD of fast food and fake huge ass tits) doesn't hurt when you look at the grand picture. Really how many giant artists can you name that are a pain to the eyes, really hurtful to look at. You don't think market ability as a whole comes into play(even the artist who just want their "1000 true fans". This may be sad, but it is true. Only the true music lovers, who know every band, might have something to say about that. But how many of them are out there buying your T's , your coffee mugs, your c.d.'s to see the artists pic's, I am not sure of that answer. Music is my life and I know I will explore every option possible including these thoughtful points listed up top. These might be for the artist who wants to make a living, but just like my bus. and my music I never like to set limitations on where my sales will lead. I like to think big and always strive for more sales with a realistic view. I believe VALUE to most is someone they can look at, listen to and admire with comfort and satisfaction like they have something important out there, an exciting place to hold on to in a maybe boring exsistence. That's getting your money's worth. By the way, most people out there don't have a stringent music background, taste, or the knowledge as many of the Fuzz bloggers. They like to, eat, they like not being told what they can or can't do, and they like to flow the masses, and they love sexy..... I think our society can vouch for that, peace and much love, you guys up top are awesome, I love reading your views, and thoughts, it brings me out of my box and allows me to take in much valued objectives and points I may not see, God I love this site and the people on it, peace and much love Jostel
posted on Mar 31 at 2:06 pm
Hey,guys/DS, you all make great points regarding the notion of 1000 True Fans. And JH, the searing honesty of the examples you raise in particular touches my heart.

In our discussions regarding how to develop 1000 True Fans, we certainly need to focus on the "elephant in the room" that we haven't talked much about here, which JH brings up without fear or favor - i.e., the allure of T & A [tits and ass] in our pop culture and what it bodes for the future of music.

We will save this "hot" item for another day because it deserves separate and focussed discussion.
posted on Mar 31 at 3:29 pm
Absolutely, TCC. While visual appeal has always been part of being a performer, the progression from the radio-friendly/low-visual 45 rpm single to albums (with their own abstract static art) to videos and now the web has greatly increased the relative importance of the visual aspect of the musical artist's presentation of their art.

In the past, music fans would have probably heard music first before being submitted to visual aspects. The move to video changed the mix to about 50/50, and now I think the ratio has swung heavily towards the visual. Why? Because people are discovering music on the web, and they're being drawn in to click the "listen" button by avatars and album art or glossy, sexy ads. Oddly enough, the emerging filtering mechanism for making your way through the mass of online music is defined by the images and words more than the music itself.

While I don't think you have to be a hottie to make it in music, I think it is critical for today's artist to be very aware of the visual image (i.e. branding) they are projecting through their avatars, profile pictures, album covers, etc. As many folks have mentioned here, it's often the little 75x75 avatar that draws Fuzzers to "check you out" for the first time. So oddly enough, that little bundle of pixels may be one of the most important artistic decisions you make ;)
posted on Mar 31 at 4:22 pm
The sexy looks/lyrics/video stuff I think only is important for the big record companies' mass markets. People listening to indie artists like students, yuppies (remember the expression?) and subculture/music-style-fans prefer sexyness in their real life, and also they see through the big companies' "marketing-by-sexyness"-plots - one of the reasons why they prefer indie (another is that generally the music in indie is better).
Back to the main topic: I haven't yet read the contra-article, maybe this point is mentioned there. With easier access to music production basically any person who likes music can also create music. So the number of music creating bands and artists is increasing on a daily basis. It might be the case that the number of people who want to sell their music equals the number of people who are ready to buy others' music.
So only few will actually manage to get these "1000" true fans. These artists must be really good and also stand out (which is only possible by individuality, because that is the one thing no one can copy from them) and they also must be willing to give up day-dreaming and instead face the reality of the modern world. But for these few the concept surely is possible to work.
posted on Apr 2 at 7:24 am
I agree with some of what you said, but the "yuppie" , students, and indie artist's are changing there approaches too. Are you saying they haven't evolved. Anyway they buy both. They are not just buying "vinyl" per say. THe computer has changed ALL the approaches. And the rest is your opinion, by the way wondering if it's different in Germany, because I am in New York doing my thing and sex sells at the few college shows I have managed to go to. Maybe different in big Plastic California, "yeah right". Matter of fact indie artist tit's are getting bigger. COuld be my imagination, it runs wild, you know big day-dreamer and all. One more thing, sexy to one might be something totally different to another. The indie artist's use a different look(sexy) that is appealing to the "yuppie"fan. This is sexy to them. You don't see them coming out in old white t's and dirty pants right. They have their appeals too. The big tits might not be their concern, but the over baggy dress or big coat with the fake general stars and all the wonders of what lies beneith it, and with such a great sound, is sexy to them. SEX SELLS ANYWHERE< TO ANYONE(except Germany of coarse) ANd really these are my two main focus's/places in music everywhere else is trivial, except maybe AZ, and Texas, Shytown. The sexy music becomes they're real life. Utube is a big part of this. You don't have to have a big record company video. Just like music more and more people are making video's and finding great exposure. It has been proven here in the states by a few. I'm simply saying that sex sells, pardon me (except with indie artist's like students(yeah right) yuppies(who were all on coke, remember them) and subculture/music style-fans). I am not saying there is a plot, just one point of many to look at.

I personally will use it all... By the way check out the top college bands on rolling stone, not Elvis Costello anymore hey...

By the way I thought I was making a comment about the point, gathering the 1000 fans. Music is different in Germany, so are the techniques. All the ones who make a big deal out of the mass promotion approach seem to be or like to think of themselves as purists. I am done listening to the overseas approach, if you are in the thick of things, in the bush here with the outsourcing I'm all ears. It's hard to get a feel for where people are coming from when they get their info from papers and computer facts. I am in the grind, right here in the States. I have money to allow me to do it, and if that helps so be it. Whatever it takes, sell a song, whatever, If I die try'n so be it. I'm not a day-dreamer like you put it, and I'm facing the reality of a modern World. But before I talk about the World< I will focus right here in the States. If I don't make it so what, I had a great time trying, what else you going to do with spare time in a economy collapsed society, buy gas, travel to Oktober fest.... By the way I love how you dismiss my views with a Back to the main topic, that's twice now, like I veered so far from it or maybe what you feel this 1000 true fans is really about. After reading the bottom of the point you were making, it seems like you were explaining how to manage to get the 1000 true fans, wasn't that what I was doing..... You are one funny German...
posted on Apr 2 at 7:38 am
GIRLs gone wild , GIrls Gone Wild, GIRls GOne WILd, a multi million dollar ploy...very stupid I know, and never watched it, but millions of people bought it and have. They are my listener's, my short cut. You think I'm old enough or really want to go to thousands of colleges gaining the masses in this fashion. You can have the elite college purist who can't afford to even buy a c.d.. THey are to busy eating RYMON noodles and drinking micro brews anyway.... I want the lets have a freaky deaky time girls and boys to say Jostel fucking Rocks, is SEXY and he's not afraid to show it. My short cut to the fact of 1000 true fans, you know the ones who buy everything because they want your bod as well as your music. YOu know the Utube video that gets thousands of hits, and creates more buzz then ten years on a college circuit scene. Maybe I'm not the one thinking in MODERN. I think someone else is sticking to there "purist" guns, glad I don't think like that, I'd be old as David Hassaloff, By the way isn't he one of the top seller's in Germany...... I know his over seas music does extremely well, must be the language barrier you spoke of. Couldn't sell one c.d. here. Now that's back to my point,,and That's funny.... Jostel
posted on Apr 2 at 10:27 am
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posted on Apr 2 at 12:24 pm
Germany and Australia, GOD LIKE. All righty then.... these are not my words by the way, google up top there's a lot more to back my thoughts. ... Yeah he's a massive talent and sex doesn't sell. What ever!!!!! I hope I don't get on the FABS FIVE bad side, sense they do most of the blogging, ha ah , ,,ah. Nonsense. Remember Jostel says.......... VW for life.. and ...Mittlestand companies rule.... I can't be all that bad, right. My views dude, that's all just my views and opinions. Not personal attacks or approaches of dismissal because I don't agree.... ANd to say the music in indie is generally better is a fucking ludicrous statement.... personal taste under lies a statement like this. I can bring up many commercial music that is amazing. like the Hoff,, ha ha ha
posted on Apr 2 at 10:25 pm
Jostel, first I would like to ask you to not take my postings personally and emotionally. I did not mean you being a day-dreamer, I was rather speaking of the many artists who still think that the big guys only have to discover them and they'll get a contract with a big company and be on TV and be a star.
Also it is a fact that the main topic was not "sex sells" but "1000 true fans", so when I say "back to the main topic" I meant "back to the main topic" and not "let's dismiss the additional topic".
Regarding your arguments I will answer later on.
posted on Apr 3 at 5:10 am
BUT I am that guy you mentioned. I am both the artist conservative thinker and the big day dreamer. To say, don't take anything on this topic"1000true fans" of basically "success in the bus." in a personal manor is quite funny in itself. I am not over the hill. I am an actual artist giving up everything else to pursue my goals, and dreams . So to talk about any subject on any matter in music or about my or anyone else's music is an emotional pilgrimage through my soul. I like to play both fields, a devil's advocate for the soul seller per say, willing to give it all up at the "cross roads".... I feel today's dreamer has a Modern edge to him, at least I think so, so yes I am answering in a personal way. I am not attacking you at all, It's called a rebuttal. Half of what I said was joking around, keeping it light, the Hoff. That is funny, and remember, I am not taking it personally at all(I'm speaking from a/my sensible approach to gain "my 1000 true fans"), You did address what I said with the sex sells in your comment, right, so I answered back. Cliff was dancing around the subject a little also. CC brought the point up in a comment to me. Again there seems to be a misunderstanding. SO I will clarify it. If you write a comment under my comment pertaining to something I say, I will wright a comment about the comment if i feel their needs to be something said. Is this what you call taking it personal I am sticking to the main topic, "1000 true fans". I am telling you how to get them. If you can use this means, not everyone can and will use this means which is understandable and fine.... Why they will spend they're hard earned money. Because sex sells in today's WORLD, RAP is all I have to say. It is opinion, but like I said, I'm actually out here(the streets) of New York, soon more than ever, making it happen, and it seems to be working, so I mentioned my approach and thoughts on the subject. No attacks just friendly rebuttals, and come on the HOFF is funny no matter what country your from.... I am a funny dude in real life, so sometimes I guess if you don't know me I come across as on the offensive, but the case is, I love to think and provoke thought, so thank you CC for keeping this sight as interesting as it possibly can and hopefully you realize I would never "dismiss the additional topic"..But in a public forum like this, with such a new theory being introduced, don't different views lead to different roads....p.s. I hope we can have open thoughts and realism in our discussion without feeling like we are taking blows, it's just banter,, just thoughts.... peace as always, and sure, love to hear your arguments... but again I am in New York doing it so hard to sell me against what works. I will have the 1000 true fans one way or another........................... Jostel..
posted on Apr 3 at 5:11 am
BUT I am that guy you mentioned. I am both the artist conservative thinker and the big day dreamer. To say, don't take anything on this topic"1000true fans" of basically "success in the bus." in a personal manor is quite funny in itself. I am an actual artist giving up everything else to pursue my goals, and dreams . So to talk about any subject on any matter in music or about my or anyone else's music is an emotional pilgrimage through my soul. I like to play both fields, a devil's advocate for the soul seller per say, willing to give it all up at the "cross roads".... I feel today's dreamer has a Modern edge to him, at least I think so, so yes I am answering in a personal way. I am not attacking you at all, It's called a rebuttal. Half of what I said was joking around, keeping it light, the Hoff. That is funny, and remember, I am not taking it personally at all(I'm speaking from a/my sensible approach to gain "my 1000 true fans"), You did address what I said with the sex sells in your comment, right, so I answered back. Cliff was dancing around the subject a little also. CC brought the point up in a comment to me. Again there seems to be a misunderstanding. SO I will clarify it. If you write a comment under my comment pertaining to something I say, I will wright a comment about the comment if i feel their needs to be something said. Is this what you call taking it personal I am sticking to the main topic, "1000 true fans". I am telling you how to get them. If you can use this means, not everyone can and will use this means which is understandable and fine.... Why they will spend they're hard earned money. Because sex sells in today's WORLD, RAP is all I have to say. It is opinion, but like I said, I'm actually out here(the streets) of New York, soon more than ever, making it happen, and it seems to be working, so I mentioned my approach and thoughts on the subject. No attacks just friendly rebuttals, and come on the HOFF is funny no matter what country your from.... I am a funny dude in real life, so sometimes I guess if you don't know me I come across as on the offensive, but the case is, I love to think and provoke thought, so thank you CC for keeping this sight as interesting as it possibly can and hopefully you realize I would never "dismiss the additional topic"..But in a public forum like this, with such a new theory being introduced, don't different views lead to different roads....p.s. I hope we can have open thoughts and realism in our discussion without feeling like we are taking blows, it's just banter,, just thoughts.... peace as always, and sure, love to hear your arguments... but again I am in New York doing it so hard to sell me against what works. I will have the 1000 true fans one way or another........................... Jostel..
posted on Apr 3 at 3:25 pm
Sex sells, no doubt. But only when it comes to showbiz, music or whatever. We do everything to be and act sexy in everyday life too. Obviously sexiness is an even better way to be successful than ever before. But let's pretend that music is an art form. Let's pretend that music fans like the complexity (Radiohead) or simplicity (Philip Glass' minimalism) of musical compositions and that those fans enjoy thought-provoking lyrics (Joni Mitchell) or tales about the losers of the American Dream (Bruce Springsteen). Those music lovers will never consider music as a pastime but will draw plenty of inspiration (both emotional and intellectual) out of it. These people will never care if Tom Waits looks likes a hobo or if a promising brit-pop artist looks like mama's boy. Those who consider music as some sort of enlightment won't give a damn if the singer is a big fat lady or a Norah Jones look-alike. Any form of art (literature, paintings, movies or music) can be consumed superficially or enjoyed as enrichment of personal emotions and thinking. The sex approach will hardly work for real music fans in my opinion. I mean it's no torture to watch a music vid with the goodlooking Rihanna, but isn't music better which pleases your mind and soul instead of the eyes?

Sex sells when it comes to sheer entertainment, sex doesn't sell when pure art is involved. Another example: Have you ever seen a sexy opera diva?
posted on Apr 4 at 6:48 am
RE: These people will never care if Tom Waits looks likes a hobo

Well Tom Waits has a very special coolness factor! What artists need is a special unique image!
That's why Radiohead are so successful without using the T&A. Everybody is blogging about them these days and their braveness. To tell you the truth: The advertising campaign - to gain as much attention as they get now - would have been more expensive than the money they loose by "letting the fans decide what they want to pay"
posted on Apr 4 at 7:44 am
I agree, It's not like I am using T&A, I don't have it, to be honest(guy), but I am saying I will use all means, not just one. I love the bands mentioned, and I to go see artist's for their true expression(emotional and intellectual). I am not shallow, I am not the big machine, my point is that I am using both avenues, choosing which one to use at different times. I'm not going to walk around a RadioHead concert with a sex sells Attitude, but I might at a Rihanna concert. My point is simply I don't dismiss any concept and I am open to everything this bus. has to offer. Purist, T& A, everything, I feel my music can hold interest in any genre(electronica maybe not) and if you listen I would hope my EMOTION AND INTELLECT out shine any over thought approaches.... SO please don't think I'm this paper thin(soul), vain, commercial glutton. I am simply saying I am a chameleon,(not the Gieco one either). I will use anyway, means possible to get my music out there. My music then has a chance to speak for itself. Isn't using every possible avenue you can come up with half the battle in a really tough bus. where the chance for success is zero to none. The more venues the more listens, the more chance for success. Again, let me state this you are very true and correct with valid points, and I will use them wisely, I will also use many other ways to attract the pocket tight listener... Peace guys(and ladies) Jostel Just trying to maximize my "true 1000 fans" potential...
posted on May 8 at 3:58 pm
And so the discussion regarding 1000 True Fans continues, as even Kevin Kelly has added some additional [read: second?] thoughts regarding the empirical evidence so far.

I friend that I found at fuzz sent this to me this week which is well worth a read by anyone following this subject: http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/04/the_case_agains.php
posted on May 8 at 4:48 pm
From the The Opposite of Faith:

http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/04/the_case_agains.php

This article is Kelly's reassessment of his 1000 true fans article, which IMHO had some great ideas and some huge holes. This article address some of the flaws I found, but the main one I'd like to throw out there is the lack of concentration on a targeted and pre-qualified audience. By the nature of the situation, a cross sections exist, but almost never do you find 1000 RANDOM people who enjoy your music. It seems that Kelly didn't really focus on the 'how' of finding true fans and that, in my mind, is selective and effective marketing to the places where you're buyer is...

From TCC:

I think the points you make about (1) the incorrect assumptions that flow from "random" selection and (2) the need for targeted marketing, would be worthwhile additions to the ongoing discussion.

Further, I think both Kelly's point and your observations bear out a conclusion that I reached elsewhere that most artists still need knowledgeable and trusted intermediaries to do some of the heavy-lifting in marketing for them as they concentrate on their creative efforts. I still think the world of "Cottage Industries 2.0" is a world of possibility, but we all have to go about making it so within a proper framework.

The Opposite of Faith:

An idea I have been tossing around with a few people is looking into promo agencies which I think is the next phase. Two factors to consider right now:

1) It's easy through specified effort to promote yourself and you have as much access as the labels.
2) Taste makers and taste making have been completely decentralized.

I think the idea of having a person/organization specializing in marketing is okay-but it strikes me as smarter and better to just do it yourself or consult which an agent or marketing specialist whom you can pay on a job by job basis. That way you have a lot more control over what's happening.

Mostly, I think this article (and what we're talking about) should inspire someone to step back and really look at what they are trying to do and get off the 'I just wanna make it' BS. What do you want it to be and how do you want it to happen? Once you know what you (realistically) want, you can start making a plan...
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